Showing posts with label Women Deacons. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Women Deacons. Show all posts

Women Keep Silent in Church!

 


Some scholars believe verses :34-35 of 1 Corinthians chapter fourteen to be interpolations (forgeries)...and for good reason. 

This is certainly within the realm of possibility as Paul himself admitted that letters “as from him” were being forged and sent to leaders of the early Christian groups (see 2 Thessalonians 2:2)It is difficult to make sense of two verses that contradict the tone and message of, not just Paul's letter to the Believers at Corinth but, the entire body of the scriptures as well. 

Why would Paul command women to keep silence among the Out-Called, when earlier in the same letter he wrote that “every one of you” may prophesy? Not to mention he knew the scriptures that said God's daughters would prophesy as well as his sons. 

In 1 Corinthians chapter eleven, Paul wrote the protocol for women in praying/preaching/prophesying publicly, when the Out-Called came together. This is likely the reason for the interpolation in chapter fourteen. 

To instruct women in public-speaking protocol only to then restrict them to absolute silence among fellow believers is a ridiculous contradiction...and completely out of character for a man who, throughout his ministry, endorsed and honored women as leaders. 

Another, not insignificant, reason to consider that verses 34-35 might be interpolations (forged inserts) is the break in continuity. 1 Corinthians chapter 14 deals with the subject of prophesying and speaking in tongues from start to finish. The only exceptions being the jarring diatribe against women in verses 34-35, without which the entire chapter would read seamlessly on the topics of prophesying and speaking in tongues:

29: Let the prophets speak two or three and let the others judge 30: If anything be revealed to another that sits by let the first hold their peace 31: For you may all prophesy [2] one by one that all may learn and all may be comforted 32: For the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets 33: Indeed God is not the author of confusion but of peace as in all churches of the saints

34: Let your women keep silence among the Out-Called for it is not permitted to them to speak but they are commanded to be under obedience as also says the law 35: And if they will learn anything let them ask their husbands at home for it is a shame for women to speak among the Out-Called

36: What came the word of God out from you or came it to you only 37: If any are deemed as prophets or spiritual let them acknowledge that the things that I write to you are the commandments of the Lord 38: But if any be ignorant [let them] be ignorant 39: Wherefore brethren covet to prophesy and forbid not to speak with tongues 40: Let all things be done decently and in order.

Two Points

  • There is no law that says women must be under obedience
  • There is no scriptural precedent that says it is a shame for women to speak in public 



[2] 1 Corinthians 14:31 reveals at least three things. 1.) Every member of the Body of Christ has liberty to speak publicly to other members of the body of Christ without asking permission from hierarchical group leadership. 2.) Women are not excluded from publicly and authoritatively preaching and teaching to other members of the Ekklesia (Body of Christ) 3.) Women are not excluded from speaking publicly to men, and men are not forbidden to learn from women. 

Verses 34-34 blatantly contradict verse 31 (along with myriads of other verses and passages). Verse 31 is just one of many scriptures that proves complementarian male headship is an unscriptural paradigm that exalts itself against the knowledge of God...and that verses 34-35 must be forgeries.

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A Great Army of Women Preaching

 "The women who proclaim good news are a great army..."

—Psalm 68:11


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The Priesthood of Believers Makes Women Equal in Authority with Men


  You also as living stones are built up a spiritual house an holy priesthood [1] to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ

1 Peter 2:5


[1] 1 Peter 2:5 calls the Church of the Living God a Spiritual House and a Royal Priesthood. Every believer is part of the Priesthood of Believers. With the exception of the gifts and callings, God does not separate his children into gender-based camps [the leader camp and the follower camp]. Jesus inducts every believer into the Priesthood of Believers Revelation 1:6. These two verses, if they stood alone [which they do not] disprove entirely the false patriarchal teachings of complementarianism. God has called his women as well as his men to live autonomous lives and to speak, preach, and lead authoritatively as HE wills.


 


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Can Women be Deacons?

 


 Whereof I [Paul] was made a diakonos [1] according to the gift of the grace of God

Ephesians 3:7


[1] In many churches, deacon boards hold more authority than the pastor. We dispute that pastoral authority from hierarchical 501c3 organizations is scriptural, but what does the Bible say about the office of deacon?

Scripturally speaking, is there such an office as deacon? Because if there is not, then the controversy over whether or not women can be deacons, is moot. It is not a valid argument, if there is no such “office” of deacon [as we know it today] found in the Bible.

In Ephesians 3:7, Paul, the apostle, called himself a diakonos, but he was not a deacon. Not a single scholar has ever claimed Paul was a deacon. Yet, the Greek word diakonos is almost universally translated as deacon (Strong’s G1249).

In Romans 16:1-2, Paul called Phebe (Phoebe) a diakonan. The Greek words diakonos and diakonon are the same word [both Strong’s G1249] and both mean either a female or male servant of God. The word is gender-neutral. The Greek interlinear based on Scrivener’s Textus Receptus, translates both words as thru-servitor. God calls both women and men as thru-servitors

The word does not mean deacon as churches today define deacon. The seven we read of in the book of Acts, are commonly referred to as the first deacons. But where do the scriptures say that? It could be that they were diakonos [thru-servitors], but it appears the Greek words diakonos, diakonon, and the various other forms of the word [G1249], bear no resemblance to what modern Christians have been trained to believe a deacon is.  

Romans 16:1-2 diakonon (G1249) (thru-servitor)

Ephesians 3:7 diakono (G1249)

 

Only five instances of the word deacon found in the English Bible (KJV)

Philippians 1:1 diakonois (G1249)

1 Timothy 3:8  diakonous (G1249)

1 Timothy 3:10 diakoneitOsan / diakoneo (G1247) (Phrase meaning: let them be thru-serving, and not let them “use the office of.” Big difference.)

1 Timothy 3:12 diakonoi (G1249)

1 Timothy 3:13  diakonEsantes / diakoneo (G1247) (thru-serving)

The word deacon as we know it today, has no place within the Body of Christ.

 

This is an excerpt from The Hungry Hearts Bible Commentary edited by this author.

 Author and speaker, Jocelyn Andersen, is an eclectic Christian writer. She is a Bible teacher who writes about many subjects including Bible prophecy and equality of the sexes. She is best known for her advocacy in domestic violence awareness. Her book, Woman Submit! Christians & Domestic Violence, has been a staple in the library of resources on that subject.  

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To receive an announcement from Amazon whenever a new book is released by Jocelyn Andersen, subscribe to Her Amazon author's page.

To Contact Jocelyn: Use the contact form in the sidebar of her blog at www.jocelynandersen.com to leave comments on her books, to reach her with questions, or to request for her to come and speak at your group.