Showing posts with label Biblical Womanhood. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Biblical Womanhood. Show all posts

Woman's Rights Men

Did you know that most abolitionists were also advocates for equality of the sexes?

Theodore Weld, who trained abolition activists and eventually married Sarah Grimke, was legendary for his courage. Despite criticism, he welcomed women into the abolition movement and insisted on treating them as autonomous equals.

In fact, the abolition movement is what kicked off the American Woman's Rights Movement. Weld trained women alongside men and treated them as self-governing equals in every way.

Weld and Grimke's egalitarian marriage lasted happily for over four decades.

Another well-known abolitionist was Frederick Douglas, who declared that he was proud to be denominated as a woman's rights man.


Woman this is WAR! Gender, Slavery & the Evangelical Caste System: Andersen, Jocelyn: 9780979429323: Amazon.com: Books

Women Keep Silent in Church!

 


Some scholars believe verses :34-35 of 1 Corinthians chapter fourteen to be interpolations (forgeries)...and for good reason. 

This is certainly within the realm of possibility as Paul himself admitted that letters “as from him” were being forged and sent to leaders of the early Christian groups (see 2 Thessalonians 2:2)It is difficult to make sense of two verses that contradict the tone and message of, not just Paul's letter to the Believers at Corinth but, the entire body of the scriptures as well. 

Why would Paul command women to keep silence among the Out-Called, when earlier in the same letter he wrote that “every one of you” may prophesy? Not to mention he knew the scriptures that said God's daughters would prophesy as well as his sons. 

In 1 Corinthians chapter eleven, Paul wrote the protocol for women in praying/preaching/prophesying publicly, when the Out-Called came together. This is likely the reason for the interpolation in chapter fourteen. 

To instruct women in public-speaking protocol only to then restrict them to absolute silence among fellow believers is a ridiculous contradiction...and completely out of character for a man who, throughout his ministry, endorsed and honored women as leaders. 

Another, not insignificant, reason to consider that verses 34-35 might be interpolations (forged inserts) is the break in continuity. 1 Corinthians chapter 14 deals with the subject of prophesying and speaking in tongues from start to finish. The only exceptions being the jarring diatribe against women in verses 34-35, without which the entire chapter would read seamlessly on the topics of prophesying and speaking in tongues:

29: Let the prophets speak two or three and let the others judge 30: If anything be revealed to another that sits by let the first hold their peace 31: For you may all prophesy [2] one by one that all may learn and all may be comforted 32: For the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets 33: Indeed God is not the author of confusion but of peace as in all churches of the saints

34: Let your women keep silence among the Out-Called for it is not permitted to them to speak but they are commanded to be under obedience as also says the law 35: And if they will learn anything let them ask their husbands at home for it is a shame for women to speak among the Out-Called

36: What came the word of God out from you or came it to you only 37: If any are deemed as prophets or spiritual let them acknowledge that the things that I write to you are the commandments of the Lord 38: But if any be ignorant [let them] be ignorant 39: Wherefore brethren covet to prophesy and forbid not to speak with tongues 40: Let all things be done decently and in order.

Two Points

  • There is no law that says women must be under obedience
  • There is no scriptural precedent that says it is a shame for women to speak in public 



[2] 1 Corinthians 14:31 reveals at least three things. 1.) Every member of the Body of Christ has liberty to speak publicly to other members of the body of Christ without asking permission from hierarchical group leadership. 2.) Women are not excluded from publicly and authoritatively preaching and teaching to other members of the Ekklesia (Body of Christ) 3.) Women are not excluded from speaking publicly to men, and men are not forbidden to learn from women. 

Verses 34-34 blatantly contradict verse 31 (along with myriads of other verses and passages). Verse 31 is just one of many scriptures that proves complementarian male headship is an unscriptural paradigm that exalts itself against the knowledge of God...and that verses 34-35 must be forgeries.

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100 Bible Studies On Woman’s Place In The Divine Economy: God's Word to Women.

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Intersex People: Conundrum for Complementarianism



Yes, women are different from men, and intersex people are  different from [and alike with] both men and women.


And they are born that way. 


Fact: Intersex people have characteristics of both male and female and can be considered neither and both. 


Fact: God does not make mistakes.

Fact: All people--intersex, female, and male--are created in the image of God, who is neither female nor male, yet portrayed in scripture as both. Does that make God intersex?

   Some of my ideas have been called "quirky." I get that. I have been told I don't think like "normal" people. I get that too. 

"Jocelyn, will you ever be normal?"

"Uh, I don't think so"

   But ever since I stumbled onto information about intersex people and began to educate myself on the subject, the question simply will not go away, "How does intersex impact the male leadership paradigm of complementarianism?"
   Complementarianism holds that men are created to lead and women are created follow and assist the men. In the case of intersex, what if a person physically appears as a women (is born with female characteristics), considers herself a woman, doesn't want to be anything but a woman, yet is chromatically male, and even though she was born with a vagina and develops breasts at puberty...a body scan reveals that instead of a uterus and ovaries, it turns out she has undescended testes instead. 
   What about the male who is chromatically female?  
What the conducter said to me when I had boarded the train with the wrong ticket!


   What a conundrum for complementarians and traditional-role-religionists. Is God's glorious hierarchical design for the sexes turned on its head by the existence of intersex?
Is it the genitalia that determine who's in charge, or is it the chromosomes?
   The Bible says, all people are made in God's image. I'm sure no human can fathom what the entirety of God's image would consist of. Does the image of God include the sexes? The texts of the Hebrew scriptures exclusively refer to the Holy Spirit as female. and in the Greek texts, the Holy Spirit is always referred to in the neutral, as neither female nor male. 
   The scriptures affirm that "In Christ," no one is either male or female, but we are all one. Does that make all Believers spiritually intersex?
   In the case of intersex people, is traditional-role-religion and complementarianism (the two are close but not synonymous) even possible? How could the male reality of an intersex person exercise "headship" over the female reality of that same person? How could the female reality of such an individual submit to the male reality of herself?

 Hmm... 

To clarify, this article deals with biological intersex people.  It does not address trans-humanism, transgenderism, nor LGBT issues but focuses solely on people who were born with characteristics of both sexes --hence, they are not "trans" but biologically born with characteristics of both sexes, so can correctly and biologically lay claim to either sex or both. 
   Intersex people are born as such and should be honored for who and what they are. 
   These are a but a few observations and questions I have on this subject. I am open to outside offers to publish a full and more extensively researched article based on the question of how the biological and scientific reality of intersex people muddies the waters of complementarianism and traditional-role-religion even more than they already are.

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